Subash Ludhra, Managing Director at Anntara Management Ltd and former IOSH President, discusses what effect a person’s upbringing can have on their perception of risk and how they go about their daily routine, and their work, later in life.
I have been in the risk management field for over 32 years and have had the privilege to have been able to work all over the world in most industry sectors. I do not claim to be a psychologist or have any professional qualification in this subject and the following is based on my experiences and observations only. I will focus this article on situations where people choose to work in a particular way rather than where they are forced by their employer to take unreasonable risks.
I have often observed scenes where children are either taking or are being exposed to risks that we in the western world would not normally understand. In the photo below the father is transporting his three sons on a motorcycle on the busy streets of Ho Chi Min City (note that whilst he is wearing a helmet, the children are not).
As a result, I have often considered what impact this behaviour has on the children’s attitude to risk as they grow up and become adults. If a child grows up observing and participating in what we would consider to be unsafe behaviours, are they more or less likely to take risks and how will that manifest itself when they enter the world of work, especially if they migrate and work in a country with much higher expectations on H&S compliance?
There are millions of people working around the world who have grown up in environments where the attitude to risk is hugely different to what we would consider “normal”. Some of them could be working in your organisation.
Many workers from Eastern Europe have what I would call a can-do attitude to work and are often eager to keep work going even if it means taking unacceptable risk to achieve the goal. Again, is this as a result of their own observations / actions taken whilst growing up.
During a trip to Berlin in Germany, I was surprised to see so many locals (young and old) waiting at pedestrian crossings to cross the roads despite the roads being completely clear of any traffic.
It occurred to me that whilst the law may prohibit the crossing of roads on a green signal, it was not the law, law enforcers or consequential penalties that were dictating this behaviour. It appeared to be social pressure based on societal norms developed over many years and passed down through generations. Parents in these counties had taught their children to cross safely and wait for the correct signals before crossing (even if there was no traffic present).
This got me thinking about how we have traditionally managed risk within the UK.
Yet in Germany and Switzerland, I was observing first hand individuals exhibiting safety behaviour despite there being no realistic prospect of being punished for breaking them. In fact, I must have broken the rules several times a day over many days in plain sight of the authorities without any intervention.
If we genuinely want to be proactive and improve the safety culture at work, are we approaching it in the wrong way (I fully appreciate that we do need to do something with our existing workforce), do we need to start focusing on future workers much earlier with better education from parents and schools. If we had all been educated in sensible risk awareness / management during childhood would we be more likely to work safely in later life.
Getting individuals or organisations to do the right thing because we collectively believe that it is the right thing to do and not because the law says we have to do it has to be the ultimate goal. Clearly society needs rules and boundaries to operate within but there is no reason why these (in relation to H&S) cannot be less prescriptive and more outcomes orientated (as stated by the HSE in their business plan).
Risk management is a fundamental life skill that many children have limited exposure to in their cosseted upbringings in modern developed countries. It should not be taught at work just in the context of health and safety.
Is now the time to lobby ministers to introduce the concept of risk management into the schools curriculum?
It will take years but the next generation of workers would be much safer and is that not our ultimate goal?
Reader response
“I read with interest Subash Ludhra’s article ‘Is our health and safety focus aimed at the wrong generation?’ It struck a chord with my own line of thought. Having risk awareness needs to be something people have as part of who they are, not something we expect people to turn on once they get to work.
Read Joe Smith’s response, ‘People are not risk averse enough for our liking’, here.
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Herbert William Heinrich’s first domino – Social Environment and Ancestry?
I guess his work has been subject to much criticism, but he did have a point. Can traits such as stubbornness, greed, and recklessness be “passed along through inheritance” or develop from a person’s social environment and contribute to the faults of persons?
As its outside of the Employers control, its dismissed. But are Governments really interested enough?
Children are indirectly taught safe behaviour at home and the classroom, just look at the current controls for Covid. The real issue is personal responsibility and self control. How many health and safety practitioners behave differently outside of work, doing hazardous tasks at home, high risk sports and personal pursuits. Do we all behave how we would expect our employees in the workplace to? Used all the correct gear with a chainsaw, ridden a motorbike too fast, done a bungee jump etc. Arguably there is no need to ride a motorbike, we all know the increased risk, most likely have a car which would be safer to get from A to B, but we do not chose to eliminate the use of the motorbike, why not? We have been trained to make sure everyone else avoids risk and do can do it at work yet chose not to outside of work despite all the training.
There seems little point in teaching children more than they already get taught, by the time they get to the employer they will be behaving the same as any new employee does now and need moulding to fit the company culture in any case. We have several apprentices and accommodate work experience placements at our foundry and can honestly say we have very little issue in their behaviours towards safety that cannot be quickly taught.
Great article Subash, thanks for making us stop and think.
As one who works with staff and students from many countries I’ve dealt with those from cultures where life is cheap and safety, where it’s considered at all, is too expensive. Our moral duty to each other, the very basis of H&S, is an alien culture to many of them. Educating them to ‘our’ way is hard, the Russians and more over Chinese are especially difficult, even those that remain for many years find such change almost impossible, that said many in the highly educated University sector professoriate, even those from H&S aware ‘cultures’ including the UK, try to bypass H&S, RAMS and COSHH if they can. The HSE would do well to look at the sector as many Universities have planned for reopening, but already we’re seeing corners cut and safe systems of work being ignored, turning ‘Covid safe’ workplaces into ‘Covid very unsafe’ ones.
Hi all,
I wouldn’t usually comment but this boils my urine.
My wife and I have two children in the pre-secondary school bracket with two building bricks encouraging no more than lol.
If now, one of our cherubs misbehaves, we both admonish with a suitable punishment for what has been committed.
Now I’m not saying our cherubs are perfect, nor shocking, but, we have noticed an increase in bad manners, foul mouth and disrespect amongst local kids, as if they’re trying to provoke you.
Ours would not dare as they have too much to lose but I do sympathise with those of you who that can’t.
Best regards
Marty
Two years ago we contacted the heads of high schools, colleges and trusts around the country, offering to provide online highly subsidized health and safety training courses as part of our social program; and a believe like yours that if children are taught safety before they enter the workplace the incidents and accidents of the future can be vastly reduced.
We offered 10 certified courses for just £20 through the Safetyman academy and received not one reply despite being one of a very few training providers with ISO 21001 : 2018 – Educational Organization Management Systems accreditation.
In addition to the reduction of incidents and accidents the benefits to employers would be immense and help relieve them of the costs of the general onboard training courses. The mindset would be one in tune with safety but the deafening silence of the response was indicative of the teaching mentality in the schools and colleges at this time.
We would still offer this to students and teaching organisations but we are not holding our breath at a response to our offer.
Thanks Subash very interesting article and it got me thinking about my 3 boys at home, ages 3>7. During this pandemic my wife and I have communicated with the children to ensure they understood the risks we currently face but in a way that did not scare them. I can say my boys without continual prompts now display the correct behaviors. If unsure they will seek clarification before acting. Would this be the case if we weren’t around? I’m not sure. Its not hard to teach children the correct and safe way to do things if done in a clear and coherent manner. But ultimately they become adults and external factors have a greater influence. In the workplace. If the companies safety culture if not right then I believe this will override any individual value and beliefs. Especially for a young person such as an apprentice. To be fair the school my boys attend regularly discuss risk and dangers that they daily face i.e. road safety, sun protection and environmental risks etc.
The children on the bike, it is not being ridden at the time of the shot. Jay-walking in Germany is an offense, or was when I was there in the 60’s. Youngsters are already being taught a level of safety in schools when undertaking laboratory lessons and where in other classes power tools and machinery is being used. Risk management is a term and though when I was serving my apprenticeship under the Factories Act we used to discuss the manner in which tasks would be undertaken. Yes there were occurrences, though fortunately I never suffered, resulting in severe injuries and fatalities. We are all made more aware these days and during my time in the workplace safety became much more focussed. Sadly we are dealing with people and if there is a path of least resistance it will be followed and safety is not always the path of least resistance.
Don’t visit Italy, it’s quite common to have the smallest child in front of the rider and more than one behind.
Thanks Subash. An interesting artile and I couldn’t agree more. I work in the agriculture sector as you know, and I am convinced that the universal (worldwide) continuing high rates of deaths, injuries and ill health in farming can be traced back to the fact the children live on farms and are involved in hazardous activities from a young age. Being brought up complacent and oblivious to many hazards, their ability to perceive the level of risk is already set pretty low.
I strongly believe that we have to engage children in H&S. I work in primary education and over the last 3 years, we have recruited and trained to what we deem to be an acceptable level of H&S over 60 H&S student reps. They are articulate, engaged and undertake inspections. It has transformed the culture of H&S and we are very proud of this achievement. What is the point of managing H&S if we do not engage the end user the pupils. They are part of my team and their voice is valued and they have the power to make things happen.