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Clegg tells HSE to let small businesses “get on with it”

25 October 2011

Nick CleggThe deputy prime minister wants small businesses to be subject to no more than two inspections a year by all regulators.

Speaking to small-business leaders in Shoreditch, east London today (25 October), Nick Clegg said the HSE, the Environment Agency and other regulators must understand that their roles are to make the lives of small businesses easier, not harder.

He told the audience that the country needs small firms to grow and insisted that “a culture change” among regulators is paramount if this is to happen. He said: “So, there will be a major shake-up of business inspection, going through the regulators, asking: ‘are they still necessary?’, ‘should they still exist?”
 
“Making sure that, yes, they intervene when necessary, they offer advice and support but, otherwise, they let you get on with it. They will need to respect the Regulator’s Compliance Code, which says regulators must think about and encourage economic growth, and they will have to make sure they aren’t breathing down your necks.”
 
He went on to say that the Government would seek to impose a cap on the number of inspections that regulators can conduct on any one small company. “Why, for example, should regulators be able to turn up at your door whenever they want, and as often as they want?” asked the deputy prime minister. “Why can’t we limit the number of inspections to, say, two a year, ensuring these bodies coordinate among themselves to stick within that limit?”
 
Adding that some regulators may even be scrapped, he said: “Which body does what can be extremely unclear, so we’re minimising the number of authorities you will have to deal with in the future; introducing sunset clauses for new regulators; placing them under rolling review.
 
“If they become irrelevant, or their functions are replicated elsewhere, they’ll go.”

Mr Clegg stressed that some regulation is “hugely important for business” but acknowledged reports that the typical small-business owner spends around a day a week complying with regulation instead of bringing in new business.

Responding to the speech, the TUC pointed out that a new survey of SMEs by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills (BIS) suggests that employment law and health and safety regulation do not even feature in their list of concerns.

Said Brendan Barber, TUC general secretary: “Regulation is there to protect us all from businesses that rip us off, trash our environment, and risk our health – or even our lives. However, it is only of use if it is enforced. Enforcement should not be seen as a burden on business, but instead a way of ensuring that good businesses are not undercut by cowboys who disregard the law and cut corners, whether it is on paying VAT, or not polluting our rivers.
 
“Cuts in enforcement will put even more of us at risk of damaged health, or injury, or death in our workplaces.”

The Hazards Campaign bluntly accused Mr Clegg of talking “utter cobblers”, adding: “Not only is it cobblers, it is dangerous, toxic, life-threatening cobblers. This is yet another assault launched by the Tories on laws and enforcement that protect workers, now with clear support from the Lib Dems.”

IOSH also took issue with the deputy prime minister’s suggestion that health and safety regulation adds to the burden of small businesses, and stressed that unannounced health and inspections must be allowed to continue. Its head of policy and public affairs, Richard Jones, said: “Good health and safety isn’t ‘red tape’ – it saves lives, supports enterprise and sustains the economy. The Government must ensure standards of public and worker protection will be maintained, before considering further cuts to health and safety inspections.

“It’s important to remember that, sometimes, health and safety inspectors may need to make unannounced visits following serious complaints, concerns, or incidents in order to ensure people’s safety is not being put at risk. This must not, under any circumstances, be impeded.”

He added: “Mr Clegg also needs to recognise that research shows many businesses actually welcome proactive inspections, as they provide free, high-quality, practical advice and support.”

The Federation of Small Businesses (FSB) said it would like to see inspections booked in advance, as it allows businesses to have the right people on site and get the most out of the inspection. However, it also fears the HSE’s cost-recovery proposals could harm the existing relationship between small businesses and the regulator.

FSB chair John Walker said: "We support moves by the HSE in taking a more proportionate risk-based approach to inspections. However, we would not want to have good working relationships between business and inspectors potentially undermined through the high flat-rate fees proposed under fee for intervention. Businesses want to be compliant and sometimes need help and support to do this. They should feel able to approach the HSE for advice and not be fearful of large fees.”


     
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Andrew Jennings
I agree wholeheartedly with Brendan Barbers comments, enough said!

Posted on 25/10/11 16:46.

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Neil
I agree entirely with Brendan Barber. Once again this government is showing just how out of touch with reality they are.

Had clegg actually bothered to do any research he would have found that most SMEs do not class enforcement inspections or indeed Health and Safety as a burden at all. Is it not better for good SME's if cowboy companies with no intention of complying with the law are inspected and highlighted? The race to the bottom has well and truly started.

Posted on 26/10/11 13:02.

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OldNick
Ah, the smokescreen thickens with yet more reason why H&S is the cause of the country's (nay, the world's) woes.
It's getting harder and harder to stomach this endless serving of tripe from London.

Funny that the government are effectively saying that it's ok to cut H&S regulation but nothing in relation to environmental regulation, which in many cases is even more stringent.

Hurt the workforce ok? Hurt the environment not ok?

Posted on 26/10/11 17:52.

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Mike
how many SME actally do get unanoucned visits for no reason? Not many I bet

Posted on 26/10/11 17:52.

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Steven
I for the lifeof me cant understand that the Goverment gets mixed up in a subject they seem to understand very little of. As a practicing HSE Specialist in UAE I would welcome Inspections on Project sites by HSE bodies other than myself and my team. Second pair of eyes always a added benefit. I will say HSE keep up the good work.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Nigel Hammond
I've had enough of these ignorant sound bites from Cameron, Clegg, Young, and Greyling. It's about time they took responsibility and accountability for the state of the economy. They've been in power now for 17 months. How long are they going to keep blaming everything on scapegoats who don't have the ear of the tabloids such as Health and Safety. It's a form of bullying in my opinion.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Richard
If this is the route the government want to take, they should change the education curriculum so that all young people leave school with at least the basic health and safety certificate and a first aid certificate - at least then they will be aware of what their employers should be doing. A higher level educational qualification (A levels/degree) should require a higher level H&S qualification before they leave education.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Steve
Yes we don't need health & Safety anymore! and lets get rid of workers just cuz there face doesn't fit and why we're at it lets remove all the fences from Downing Street, and the Ministers bullet-proof cars We don't need the HSE, What right has anybody who is not a Tory to be in work! Why not bring chimneys back we can send all those rioters up them to clean them....me cynical!!!!!

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Coxy
Unbelievable - once again Clegg in another effort to appease his tory masters stoops to even lower depths. Demonstrating just how out of touch he is with the real world. Even prior to the draconian cuts by the coalition the liklihood of SME's being visited was remote to say the least. Now a clear signal is being sent to unscrupulous employers that its now easier to injure or harm your employees / polute the environment.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Keith j
I have worked for my current employer for just over three years and in that time we have had only one inspection from the HSE our buisness is manufacturing and employs 60 people and is a medium risk business. Statements like this are typical of the current goverment that obviously do not research these subjects enoeugh before going public

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58 in reply to Mike.

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Paul R
Once again this shows how frighteningly out of touch some leading politicians are with the real world. The vast majority of small businesses would be lucky to get one visit in five years unless of course serious issues were discovered. However sometimes it is lack of understanding by SME's. I recently spoke to a small garage owner who was complaining about a H&S visit but it quickly became clear that he had had a visit from VOSA because he does MOT's. Lots of work still to be done.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Les Parker
This is a warning to Mr Clegg and the other members of the anti safety brigade,
When death and serious accidents numbers start to rise in small to medium businesses,
And families suffer needless pain.
I will write to the government and say I told you so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Percy Smith
There are two points that Mr Clegg seems to have missed. Firstly any SME that receives just one regulatory visit in a year should think itself lucky, with the reduction in inspections by the HSE.
Secondly, it is big businesses not small ones, that have become overburdened with regulatory visits, despite a policy of 'informed' busineses receiving less visits but more 'support'. The prime criteria sometimes seems to be the proximity to a HSE regional HQ, offering a 'day out' at a large plant.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Malcolm Griffiths
In my experience, inspection visits by HSE to SME's are quite rare, so 2 per year would be extraordinary. But the assertion that SME's do NOT find H & S regulations a burden is absolutely untrue. Ignoring those companies in my immediate sector, involved in chemical processing, & who are (& have been for many years) beset on every side by more & more safety regulation, even office-based companies get bogged down dealing with childish issues such as stress & training on lifting trivial weights.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58 in reply to Neil.

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Michael Morrisroe
Why worry about regulators if there is nothing to worry about. In most cases, these regulators offer sound and more importantly, FREE advice on aspects that may eventually, save lives. I have never heard of any business complaining about too many inspections.
This is just another case of a politician pandering to his audience.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:59.

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Mr Grumpy
U’mm two inspections a year! That’ll make a change; in all my years as an Occupational Health, Safety and Environmental Manager I’ve never had a regulator tip up to view my domain and / or support my cause. Come on Clegg get down off the ‘band wagon’, careful don’t slip and fall.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Paul Gattuso
Agree, totally with IOSH view. Their needs to be a campain to communicate to small businesses that Health and Safety makes good sense and can be simple to follow with the right advice!

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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alex howard
Here we go agan!! It's 'elf an Safety' wot's to blame for everything!! - I for one am sick to death of reading the verbal manure that this idiot spouts in his continuing efforts to gain votes for his retrograde policies that are completley out of touch with facts.
The main fact being that he obviously thinks that the people that will get hurt as a result of this won't be the ones that vote for him.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Colin
Once again H & S is used as an excuse for economic failure. Would Nick Clegg be happy to have fly-tippers dumping rubbish on his lawn?

Given the reductions in the HSE budget most SME's will be unlikely to get a visit yearly from any inspector let alone two a year.

Posted on 27/10/11 12:58.

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Gary Latimer
Clegg needs to wake up and realise that H&S is a key part of the business world and if his Civil Servants bothered to do their research properly and looked at the H&S stats within the EU, its clear to see we do a damn good job of enforcement in this country.

Maybe thats the reason for this latest rediculous outburst, is he suggesting we are doing so well that we can take our foot off the pedal? What an idiot!!

Posted on 27/10/11 12:59.

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